Hard car to build

then its not stock. if you have a car with a engine that doesnt come stock in it then its not stock.  
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Not to mention scrotum.. you wanna talk about bone stock Toyotas that do 13.3 from the factory which they DONT..  Well.... Honda S2000 can do 14's right from the factory and it doesnt even need a turbo like your toyota... so how do you like those apples???  

But how much more do you pay for an S2K than an MR2?  How do you like THOSE apples, eh?  EH?!  
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a f20 s2000 gos for around 10gs. a turbo mr2 goes for around 8gs.  
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I like THOSE apples a lot.. nismo.. only 2 grand difference...i will take the better car... Honda. And by the way, since you are a little nismo biotch, was that you in the Riced-out nissan 350Z with the fake blower???...haha  

I am %100 certain that the motor in my car is %100 stock as it left the factory. MR2's came with 3sgte's as an option for its motor, and I am using a 3sgte as the motor in my car. Its on stock injectors, stock ecu, stock head and block, and laid down 303whp on a 100 degree day with just a turbokit and intercooler added to it. Yes it is the stock motor that came from a stock MR2 Turbo, and I happen to own a MR2 Turbo.

I supose a stock R34 Skyline isnt stock since it was never sold in America, even though it left the factory %100 stock using your logic.

Oh and who cares if an S2000 does 14's NA, that just means that you wont garner much more hp out of it without doing an entire motor rebuild and dumping between 10-15k dollars into it. My motor on the other hand came very underrated from the factory and was setup for making MUCH more hp than how it left and is easily capable of making 400whp before doing ANY rebuilds. Main difference between an F20a and a 3sgte, is an F20a needs a 10k dollar rebuild just to make 400whp, and a 3sgte needs a $0 rebuild but for a few bolt on parts to make 400whp.

So thank you for reiterating my point of how good the MR2 Turbo is compared to the S2000 and why the 3sgte is much better than a F20a. Oh and Im sorry you have so much trouble beleiving MR2's run 13.3 from the factory even when I show you video proof of one doing just that. God Forbid I mention the stock 493hp TRD2000gt that would blow the doors off ANY Honda that EVER left the factory.

Just goes to show you that my motor was buiit for racing, and the motor in most Honda's was built for fuel economy from the factory.  

wait. you said that you have bought a turbo, high flow injectors, and some other *** off of ebay. you have at least a aftermarket turbo, that right there makes your car not stock. your stock car only has 200bhp. your jdm, not stock in your car, motor has only 220bhp. my chipped 2000 ford taurus had 235bhp and 258tq. its just like hte other day for me. i raced a guy with a 97 honds cvic ex who said he had a stock motor. after i lost to him, his friend slipped up adn was talking about the ls swap they did to the car two months ago. your a liar. all you do is lie. your mr2 didnt come stock with a jdm 3rd gen 3sgte, the 3rd gen 3sgte didnt arrive in a car until 1995, your car is a 91. its like a guy in a 91 honda civic si swapping in a k20 and saying its the stock motor cause it comes in a honda civic si. there is no logic to your lies.  
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The motor itself is relatively unmodified from how it left the factory, and I was talking about buying 800cc injectors down the road to fit in my stock fuel rail, right now Im using stock 540cc injectors. JDM 2nd gen 3sgte's left the factory with about 220hp, but the JDM 3rd gen 3sgte left the factory with 240hp (or 245ps to be exact).

The only comparison you might be able to make is if the guy with the civic si bought another civic si motor and put it in, not some motor that was never designed for the car like the K20. I am using a stock MR2 motor, not a motor from a Supra or anything else.  

Your numbers are way off. It does not take 10-15K to make an s2000 run fast. Here is a turbo kit for $5,500 runing 7psi on stock internals it comes with larger injectors and everything you need and puts down 300hp. There is even a time slip showing it runs 12's. And according to your logic I can by a 99 civic dx hatchback and swap a B16b from a JDM type R and get a 85hp bump but that would be considered stock because that engine comes in that chassis in Japan.

http://www.ultimate-racing.com/Products/Honda-US-S2KTurboKit.shtml  
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SCROTUM-SACK... you wanna talk about the STOCK TRD2000gt????... LOL... you mean the 35 limited edition body kits, etc that TRD made special?... not all those cars had 493 HP... one guy who managed to get one only had 270 HP... you call that STOCK??... Toyota makes a customized car kit based off the MR2.. makes only 35 kits.. a few go to Europe, US, the rest stay in Japan... and you wanna compare that STOCK car to a Honda car???... dude you are ridiculous...  

the 3rd gen 3sgte never was never stock in a usdm mr2. toyota stopped the mr2 for a couple of years in america before it came back out with its crappy 2.2l motor.

The most powerful engine was the turbocharged 3S-GTE, which was available in Japan at 245 PS (242 hp/180 kW) (as the MR2 GT) and the USA at 200 horsepower.
2.0L 200 hp (150 kW) Turbocharged I4 (US)
2.0L 225 PS (222 hp/165 kW) Turbocharged I4 (Japan)
2.0L 245 PS (242 hp/180 kW) Turbocharged I4 (Japan)

in these statements where do you see that the usdm had 220bhp.  
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"a f20 s2000 gos for around 10gs. a turbo mr2 goes for around 8gs."

Where are you getting your numbers?  Out your ass?  Look at these:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=245933029&dealer_id=1147621&car_year=2001&rdm=1237831204120&model=S2000&num_records=75&systime=&make3=&make2=TOYOTA&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&model2=MR2&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=HONDA&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=66618&advanced=&end_year=2003&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=1453&standard=false

This is AVERAGE for a 99-03 [F20} S2000.  $21K is a little off of 10, eh?

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=259464747&dealer_id=63882097&car_year=1991&rdm=1237861382877&model=MR2&num_records=75&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1990&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=TOYOTA&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=66618&advanced=&end_year=1999&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=1294&standard=false

There's an AVERAGE 2G T-Bar...  $21,000 for an S2000 and $10,000 for the MR-2.  Therefore my point is proven.

"I like THOSE apples a lot.. nismo.. only 2 grand difference...i will take the better car... Honda. And by the way, since you are a little nismo biotch, was that you in the Riced-out nissan 350Z with the fake blower???...haha"

Sluggo, just shut your mouth.  If you're not going to do ANY research to try and justify your point, you can leave and let the mature bunch have the discussion.  Drop the crappy, useless insults and get some common sense and respect.  Do you ever wonder why EVERYONE on this site gets in arguments with you?  Well, let me tell ya something PAL, it ain't us with the problem...  And Godfather, you usually have a decent point and opinion on certain matters, but do your homework and show proof that you did before you post ANYTHING, would ya?  
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NISMO.. SHUT YOUR STUPID FACE.. PAL!!!! i dont get into any arguments around here except for you and scrotum-sack... so shut your mouth... and the wall of text garbage you put up is about the stupidest so called research i have ever seen.. can you put up a link, instead a wall of useless garbage?.. probably not your too stupid to realize it  

dam, a s2000 is expensive there. in my town there is a 2000 s2000 for only $9995. it has 145000 miles on it. in okc there is a 93 mr2 turbo with 245000 miles for $8295. the mr2s are way over priced. nada and kbb only price them for around $3000.  
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"NISMO.. SHUT YOUR STUPID FACE.. PAL!!!!"

Wow... nice insult, buddy, but I graduated the 3rd grade awhile ago so that doesn't really hurt my feelings...

That 'wall of text garbage" is a URL, genius.  Try copy and pasting them into your browser.  I'm sorry YOU were TOO STUPID TO REALIZE THAT....  :/  
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"It's either a fuel injection or carbeuration problem" said the man with a 2001 Saturn Ion
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Daily: 2000 Honda Accord Coupe F23A1 VTEC
Project: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD