Interview with Athiest Richard Dawkins

he is trying to cram his beliefs down our throats until we either die or convert. atheism is a forceful, vile religion.  
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I'm pretty intelligent and I'm not atheist. Don't trip out on the guy he is stating his opinion on the matter and if you truly are christian you should be tolerant of other peoples beliefs.  
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i am tolerent. i dont enjoy someone trying to cram their religion down my throat.  
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Agreed.  
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Please its the Christian Right trying to force their beleifs on everybody. Trying to overturn Roe V Wade (Because women can never ever be trusted to make decisions over there own bodies! Only ministers and old white men can!)

Trying to introduce creationism into public class rooms and teach it as fact even though its just a story.

Trying to have the ten commandments put in public court buildings and manger scenes on Christmas in public buildings.

If your going to do that, you have to give all religions equal time, including athiesm.

Im just saying there is a lot more proof that god almost certainly doesn't exist, than making an assumption that all unknowns means there is a god behind it.

And generally the conservatives are from the south, it was the south that had Jim Crow laws and resisted the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Illinois is one of the bluest states in the nation and that is where Lincoln is from, because he beleived in blacks having equal rights.

godfather has the least credibility on this forum, hes the guy who swore that the MR2 was RRWD when he had a whole forum of mr2 enthusiasts calling him an idiot and telling him it was MRWD. So if thats your guy doing all your proving wrong of me for you, it would seem thats the last person you want to go to.

Tomas de Torquemada killed 2200 Jews and Muslims by burning at the stake and other torturous methods in the name of the Christianity.

And then what about those Christians that kill abortion doctors because God tells them to kill? I supose though shalt not kill has no meaning to them while holding no regard for law or the safety of others. Atleast progressives aren't known for killing there opposition.

And then there were all those crusades in the middle ages, where they killed thousands of Muslims, Jews, Pagans, and so on just because they weren't Christian.

And finally lets not forget Christian Andrea Yates, who claims that God told her to kill her children by drowning them in the bath tub. Yea that makes a whole lot of sense in our society?

Every Bible should come with this warning label on it.
 

ya, a baby shouldn't have a choice if they want to live or not. i know that most of us here wish your mom participated in abortion. we are fighting for equality. you athiests are forcing evolution down our childs throats. they should be able to choose what they want to learn.

the ten commandments are the original laws. every law of every country are based on these laws. its not a religious factor, its a sign of respect.

you have less credibility then me. you said that your usdm mrpew is stock although you have a jdm engine swap.

atheist who murder blame it on god. most serial murderers are stand out atheists, but yet they blame it on god. the truth about it is that with out god there will never be peace.

you dont know history do you. the crusades were started to help return the jews and israelies back to israel and kick the muslims out. i guess you could say it was the israely jiha.

actually, until the 70s the south was the power of house of the liberals. and still kind of is. check your history.  
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Hardly not, the South has ovewrwhelmingly voted Republican in the last 3 elections Ive kept track of. It wasnt a democratic chairman who thought "Barrack the magic negro" was a funny song, but rather a Republican one.

yes I am using an almost stock JDM motor in my MR2. Virtually no mods have been done to it for a few bolt ons and it made 303whp with just a turbo and intercooler bolted to it.

Muslims have every right to that land as do Christians and Jews. According to their Kuran Jurasalem is the third holiest city and they belong their as much as the Jewish do. As the great democrat Jimmy Carter titled his book,  Apartheid is not peace and thats essentially what the Jews have forced upon the Arabs in an almost reverse holocaust.

Crusades killed thousands of non-christians including Jews and Muslims and several other religions all in the name of Jesus Christ. Since when did Jesus advocate killing in his name? You dont even take his beleifs to word do you?

A lot of murderers claim god told them to kill. YOu cant discount the famous murderer Andrea Yates since shes not the first to tell society that God told her to kill.

Women have their own rights over their own body's. If you dont like it, dont have abortions, not try and cram your beleif system down non-christian peoples throats. Besides, its not like the earth is suffering from lack of human life, if anything its well overpopulated.  

the only person here that is forcing there beliefs here is you. you believe that christianity should be wiped off the face of the planeet and that everyone should be an atheist. your culture believes in survival of the smartest,  in which you would be dead soon. my culture teaches that everyone has potential, and should be able to live their own lives. religions like atheism, mormonism, and pentacostals are all forceful religions, if you dont believe their religion then your stupid and should die. there are terrorist orginizations that teach that to, so in some certain circumstances, you are a terrorist. your kind is destroy this world with your bs lies.

charles manson was an athiest.

people who say that god made them kill are idiots and liars. they are not christians. they are trying to place the blame on someone else, and if you believe what they say then you a fool. just like murderers who say that they are to stupid to know what they did. ever since god was removed from all aspects of this country, teen pregnancy has gone up, murders have gone up, and drug abuse has gone up. the country with the least amount of crime; you should know this, no, ok, its england; is a god fearing country. the english know that they have to answer for all their doings, whether they be good or evil. god brings fear, fear brings truth. plane and simple. since people think that there is no one to fear, they do what ever they want.

abortion is wrong, it is murder. that baby has a heart beat once it is concieved. instead of having abortions, safe sex and abstinance should be practiced. there is a woman in california that has had over 10 abortions. that just shows our teenagers that they can do what ever they want. now there is one way that abortion wouldnt be wrong. if a woman was raped and from that got pregnant, if she doesnt want the kid, then yes, have an abortion. in that scenario that child was forced upon her, but in most cases, thats not how it happens, women screw around and dont want to have to deal with the consequences.  
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I've been following you two for a while now, and I just wanna throw in a few words.

I'm born and raised Catholic, went to a public school, currently in a Catholic school, and I live in a Mormon state. I have seen many different views on religion.

Personally, I believe in God and evolution. I believe God had a hand in pushing evolution in the right (arguable word, depending on the side) path.

What you guys are doing, you are generalizing and stereotyping. Both are at fault here, because Scrotum is saying all Christianity is bad because of a few events and a few people. Godfather is saying atheism is wrong because of a few people assassinating. (These are just a few points)

I completely disagree with how you guys are approaching this. Stereotyping is a stupid lie that never applies. If atheists are so bad because of these few people assassinating others, then why don't you see assassinations when you round a corner everywhere you go? If Christians are so bad because of the Crusades, then why don't we see Christians waging war everywhere? You see? Stereotyping is a weak argument. Every person is born the same. Innocent, and with a clear conscience. However, your surroundings and how you are raised affects how you will be. Just because I'm Catholic doesn't mean I do everything the exact same way as Pope Julius, or St. Juan Diego, or even my brother for that matter. So when comparing things, just don't stereotype. It will work better for you in the end, and provide a more stable argument.

What I see is both of you blaming on the other, saying the other is trying to cram one's religion down the other's throat. From reading, it seems like you're both doing it. (It's a dangerous path, making "enemies" from both sides, but still, it's how I see it.)

Which religion is right? Which is wrong? Well, it's impossible to say when you're still alive. But when you die come back and tell us ok? Anyways, I think every religion is right. And every religion is wrong. Why do you think there are so many different religions in the world? Because people see right and wrong differently. They take the things they see as good and adapt it. So no religion is perfect. Each religion has its good and bad to it.

So yeah, that's just my opinion. Now nobody's willing to yield to the other's view, but just felt like saying something.    

ONCE AGAIN, SCROTUM SACK.. YOU PROVE YOUR STUPIDITY.... Dawkins was in the movie Expelled and interviewed by Ben Stein... Dawkins is a raging retard... him and you and people like you are fools.. Darwin didnt even explain where life begins.. he starts his theories after the first organism is here on earth,,, funny how he skipped the most important part, and that is where life begins... Got news for you fool... only an idiot would think you evolved from a brainless amoeba... and your great grand daddy is a gorilla... You will meet your maker one day, and its not going to be pretty... Eternity is an awful long time, especially when its in the Horrors of Hell !!!!  


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say dude u should really read the bible for yourself before making comments like that, hell is simply mans common grave dude, thats all. u dont burn, get tortured non of that, all that mythical *** abt fire and sulfur comes from where the hebrew ppl dumped the dead bodies of disgraceed ppl, its called gehenna look it up, and religion paints this ugly picture of the devil, which is nonsense, because he was a light angel and supposedly one of the most beautiful, secondly darwin is a beast, ns(natural seletion) is a really good theory, but since it contradicts religion its easily and quickly dismissed. see thats the problem with religion, it has too many dogmas. if it doesnt fit in with the holy views its bad. science does not rule out the possiblity of god(good science anyway)but religion will rule out anything that doesnt fit their principles. the same can be said for aethiests tho, they automatically rule out the possibility of a higher power. so thats why agnosticism is the way for me. i know most are gonna say "u cant ride the fence" or "u cant have it both ways" but, if there is a god im sure he isnt that vain to say either u are wit me or against me........  

I DID READ THE BIBLE... and you are wrong!!... Jesus spoke of the eternal fire... LOOK IT UP !!!..  Read the story of Lazarus and the torment...LOOK IT UP... and by the way... before Darwin died...he recanted everything he said because he knew before he died, all his theories were all garbage... LOOK IT UP!!!...  

wow, this is the first time i have actually agreed with what you are saying.  
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Thanks.. remember all the RAAM67 posts here on this topic are mine... and yes, i agree with the things you said to scrotum-sack... People mostly believe what they want to believe in order to justify their lifestyle...EXAMPLE... about 100 percent of gay and lesbians voted for Obama... cuz Obama supports all those issues and supports abortion... They picked the candidate that justifies their lifestyle. Same thing with other ppl, if they believe they came from a brainless amoeba, then adultery, porn, whatever is okay, cuz there are no consequences.. everything is a free-for all... just follow what ever feels good... This is all good, until they get hit by a bus, or they are lying in their hospital bed about to take their last breath...Then they will see if this world is just one big accident... its not.. Amen  

Look, there is no scientific proof backing up there being a god so I refuse to beleive in any god. I mean afterall, what if you chose the wrong religion? Wouldnt you be making god madder and madder everyday? Catholicism says if your not catholic, you automatically go to hell, then there is Hinduism that has several gods including Ganeisha, then there is Islam that says you must kill enemies of islam to be guarunteed a spot in heaven with 40 virgins. One thing Ive noticed is everyone thinks that THEiR Religion is the RIght Religion. I refuse to beleive any crap that religion has to say, it has no bearing whatsoever on scientific proof.

BTW, the earth IS older than 6000 years old, unlike what creationism would have you beleive, and these same creationists would have you beleive that man was on earth the same time as dinosaurs were, which is impossible since dinosaurs were on the earth atleast 60 million years before mankind.

Assuming that all things unknown to science must mean there is a god is the stupidest argument for a god I have ever heard eckzwolfe.

You wanna know what religion I beleive in? Flying Spaghetti Monsterism. I beleive that if there is a god, he resembles a giant flying spaghettin monster with meatballs, and in heaven he has instore for us a beer volcano and a stripper factory!

And btw, life begins with primordial soup also known as Abiogenesis. You can read more about it here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis  

dude its called symbolism, LOOK IT UP!!!!!  some things in the bible aren't meant to be taken literally. they said in the bible his head and his hair was like wool, as white as snow, his eyes were like flames of fire....thats symbolic, revelation 1:12.. in ecclesiastes 9:5 the living know at least when they will die but the dead  know nothing, the have no further reward... see, when ever they speak of death in the bible they refer to it as fire, the eternal fire means once u die the last time u will not be brought back.. LOOK IT UP!!!! Biblical words translated as "Hell"

Sheol
   In the King James Bible, the Old Testament term Sheol is translated as "Hell" 31 times.[14] However, Sheol was translated as "the grave" 31 other times.[15] Sheol is also translated as "the pit" three times.[16]
   Modern translations, however, do not translate Sheol as "Hell" at all, instead rendering it "the grave," "the pit," or "death." See Intermediate state?.

Gehenna
   In the New Testament, both early (i.e. the KJV) and modern translations often translate Gehenna as "Hell."[17] Young's Literal Translation is one notable exception, simply using "Gehenna", which was in fact a geographic location just outside Jerusalem (the Valley of Hinnom).

Tartarus
   Appearing only in II Peter 2:4 in the New Testament, both early and modern translations often translate Tartarus as "Hell." Again, Young's Literal Translation is an exception, using "Tartarus".

Hades
   Hades is the Greek word traditionally used for the Hebrew word Sheol in such works as the Septuagint, the Greek translations of the Hebrew Bible. Like other first-century Jews literate in Greek, Christian writers of the New Testament followed this use. While earlier translations (i.e. the KJV) most often translated Hades as "hell", modern translations use the transliteration "Hades" or render the word as "the grave" in most contexts. See Intermediate state?.

Abaddon
   The Hebrew word Abaddon, meaning "destruction", is sometimes used as a synonym of Hell.[18]

Infernus
   The Latin word infernus means "being underneath" and is often translated as "Hell".

And as far as darwin thats simple revisionist history right there do ur research and show me  where he actually recanted, refuted, or renounced anything