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awd vs. fwd vs. rwd
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Posted: 03/02/09 03:45 PM
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the 97 mr2 and the 07 mr2 are the exact same car, so that dont really count. no duh your car stops faster then a ferrari, a geo metro stops faster then a ferrari, hell, a geo metro stops faster then your car. does that mean that a geo metro is a better performance car then yours. my tracker went from 60-0 in only 83ft.
i cant think of the name of the race, but its the street race that goes through france. and actually, the mini has one 5 wrc titles. they are the only fwd car that have one a wrc.
------- the godfather has spoken
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Posted: 03/03/09 08:32 AM
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the tour de' france!!!! lol, just playing, bit was it monte carlo? i know its the f1 cars
------- 1985 BMW 318i -All Stock- ------ www.vault1autoforum.proboards.com
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Posted: 03/03/09 10:25 AM
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thats it. the monte carlo run.
------- the godfather has spoken
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_NISMO_
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Posted: 03/03/09 11:19 AM
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Nice topic, eckzwolfe. You did your homework, but you didn't quite ace it...
The arguments going around these forums on which is the superior drivetrain is solely that. Which drivetrain is ultimately best for all applications. Weather it be straight-line speed or running around the track.
Notice all of those cars you listed are mid-level, middle-class production cars. And, as you pointed out for us, FWD seems to have a slight edge. However, like scrotum noted, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg, etc all use MRWD drivetrains. There's a reason for that. Thousands of dollars and countless hours of research go into those machines to make them as fast as mechanically possible.
So, if you're looking for the BEST drivetrain for an entry-level vehicle that you plan on racing on track with, go with FWD. If you're looking for straight-line speed down a drag strip, choose AWD or RWD.
---- "It's either a fuel injection or carbeuration problem" said the man with a 2001 Saturn Ion --- Daily: 2000 Honda Accord Coupe F23A1 VTEC Project: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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Posted: 03/03/09 04:14 PM
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for all of us regular people who cant afford any real exotics, this is a perfect topic. i enjoy my fwd eclipse, but i would love to have a subie wrx sti, especially since i will hopefully be moving to colorado springs with the army. for those of you who dont know, pikes peak hill climb is only 30min away.
------- the godfather has spoken
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Posted: 03/04/09 08:38 AM
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I highly doubt a geo metro can outstop a Ferrari or a MR2 Turbo simply because of the pizza cutter tires they put on it from the factory.
According to Edmunds.com it could do 60-0 in 156 feet, way off the mark again godfather.
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 156 ft.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1997/geo/metro/50/specs.html
There was also a model change between the 97 MR2 and the 07 MR2, so they are not the exact same car.
I also call BS on your suposed tracker claims. Says here on edmunds the tracker did it in 153 ft.
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 153 ft.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1997/geo/tracker/12797/specs.html
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eckzwolfe
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Posted: 03/06/09 10:36 AM
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thanx ppl for the interest in my topic
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eckzwolfe
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Posted: 03/06/09 10:36 AM
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_NISMO_: Nice topic, eckzwolfe. You did your homework, but you didn't quite ace it...
The arguments going around these forums on which is the superior drivetrain is solely that. Which drivetrain is ultimately best for all applications. Weather it be straight-line speed or running around the track.
Notice all of those cars you listed are mid-level, middle-class production cars. And, as you pointed out for us, FWD seems to have a slight edge. However, like scrotum noted, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg, etc all use MRWD drivetrains. There's a reason for that. Thousands of dollars and countless hours of research go into those machines to make them as fast as mechanically possible.
So, if you're looking for the BEST drivetrain for an entry-level vehicle that you plan on racing on track with, go with FWD. If you're looking for straight-line speed down a drag strip, choose AWD or RWD.
i read somewhere that although the awd has the advantage off the line their more like to have more component breaks because of all the stress put on the engines , and they are more like to suffer from drivetrain loss...
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_NISMO_
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Posted: 03/06/09 11:12 AM
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Yes, they are more likely and do, indeed, suffer a power loss through the AWD drivetrain. As for stress put on the engines... not so much. I mean, yea it's got to turn all four wheels, but it's not really hurting anything. If it came factory with AWD, it'll handle that 'stress' [if there is any] just fine...
---- "It's either a fuel injection or carbeuration problem" said the man with a 2001 Saturn Ion --- Daily: 2000 Honda Accord Coupe F23A1 VTEC Project: 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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Chev1991
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Posted: 03/07/09 10:46 PM
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sirscr0tum1 Guru | Posts: 1066 | Joined: 04/07 Posted: 03/02/09 01:32 PM Actually godfather no FWD cars are even allowed to compete in Le Mans. MRWD cars are however. he's talking about the eldorado and i'd say a 375 hp car that can be well over 500 with under a grand isn't too bad. btw it is fwd. i agree awd is the best platform though
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