Should the Big 3 be bailed out?

Who here thinks the big 3 should get a bail out? Personally I beleive in survival of the fittest. The CEOs make millions while the blue collar joes working there ass off in the factories get screwed. Toyota and Honda have factories in the states and Canada and they are doing alright. American car companies should have done more research instead of building tons of SUVs and Trucks. Not to mention duplicating cars for no reason (cobalt/sunfire). It sucks that a lot of people will lose jobs but there will always be a need for people who can build things and i'm sure they will find other jobs.  
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They did it to themselves. i mean, the majority of their market was mediocre cars that were just cheaply made that were appealing to soccer moms, men going through a mid-life crisis, and just daily drivers. i know i'm gonig to catch flak for that statement, but in my defence, i said the MAJORITY. i do recognize that the domestic market actually has produced some very impressive cars, but compared to the lineup in it's entirety, a good quality car [whether sports or luxury] is seldom.

i believe [and again, this is a personal opinion] that the import market appealed to a larger demographic.

also, i used to work at OnStar, and i became REALLY annoyed REALLY quickly with the companies overall egocentric attitude [chevrolet et al.]. sorry. that one was more of a vent. haha


anyways, again, i don't mean to offend anyone, this is a personal opinion. i have owned GM cars, and just found the overall quality of imports are better [and for a better price.]


all in all, i DO hope that the workers are able to find employment elsewhere. i've got plenty of friends affected by all of this..  
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They kind of have too tons of people would be laid off.
I'm only 16 and I realize this. I agree I love imports as well but what really made you guys first love cars.
It was the chevy small block v8 lol  
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And with them being laid off. That would make us just a little closer to a depression  
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ya it will cause a depression. and bringing back our soldiers to be unemployed will only intensify it. if u thot bush was bad just wait til obama has his turn.

but no i dont think they should get bailed out. i mean i would feel sorry for the employees but their bosses n owners r just gambling with their jobs. we dont have any need for new muscle cars or v8's. we have plenty of them from the last 50 years! theres no real command for them at all. thats just dumb  
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Im gonna have to disagree with you on that one Bray, most of the money being spent in Iraq is going to foreign contractors and companies that do little if not nothing at all to raise the GDP of the nation. How does hiring foreign contractors to build roads and sewers in Iraq increase our Nations GDP? It doesnt, so those are tax dollars being shoveled out the door for no greater good.

As FDR proved, the best way to get out of a depression is to invest in Infrastructure projects and create jobs here at home. If we spend our tax dollars buildings roads and bridges here at home, instead of hiring contractors to do that in Iraq, we will increase our nations GDP and the number of jobs here at home.

Or instead of buying a 1000 Humvees to get blown up by roadside bombs, or soldiers that are gonna get shot and require decades of medical care on tax dollar expense, we can be buying jobs to build better schools here at home.

If there is one thing Liberals have proven, much like the great liberal FDR, is that trickle up economics ALWAYS works better than Trickle down economics under Republicans.  

they aint gonna do that and you know it.

they should be bailed out. and i agree with the way congress is handling it. theyre hiring a car czar who will dictate the funds to neccessary areas. they already told chevorlet and dodge that the owners are goin to have to take a major pay cut so they wont go bankrupt. last year the chevy ceo made over 2mil. there salaries are supposed to be cut in half. ford is the only company thats not in the whole. fords sister companies hyundai and nissan are 2 of the top auto dealers in america, under toyota and honda. all of chevys import cars are not selling well either. dodge only has mitsubishi, and mitsubishi is selling ok, but not good enough to make up for dodges losses.  
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I just hate the fact that because Americans chose not to buy there shitty cars, there getting our tax dollars anyways. Who the hell invests in trucks and SUV's when gas is $4 a gallon?

Any car company that acts like gasoline is an infinite resource deserves to go under IMO.  

well it depends where you are, where i live theres more trucks than cars. just cause you like your shitty mr2 doesn't make all american cars shitty by the way.  

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not all domestics are cheap/crap. i think it's all about supply and demand.

i see plenty of GM dealerships that have well over a hundred new impalas because they had projected their sales to be better, but no ones buying them. ALSO, i've noticed that in an attempt to make a bit more money/get rid of the 08 models, they're selling their cars for dirt cheap and throwing deals in like 0% financing and 500 Litres [i'm in canada] of gas. i mean, it's damage control, yes, but there's only so much they can do.

how many people really NEED a hummer or escalade, especially with recent gas prices? [although ours have dropped qute significantly lately].

and with our climate, how many people are going to buy a XLR-V to drive for 7 months of the year and cover up in the garage for the other 5?  
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I don't understand why they have some many brands either. Like GMC/Chevrolet/Cadillac/Buick/Pontiac/Saturn. They should cut it down to just Chevy/Cadillac. One for regular cars and one for luxury cars. Like Honda/Acura or Toyota/Lexus.  
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Dont hate on my MR2 just because it can brake better than your car, slalom better, get a better quartermile time and pulls a better lateral g results in the skidpad. Oh wait, how is it shitty in what way? I guess fuel economy my bad for not trying to turn a fuel economy car into a Race car, I chose to build a car meant for racing into a race car. Sounds to me like hater talk cuz my car is so much better than yours, my bad.  

this is a forum for the bailout of teh big 3, not a "brag about your car and bash other rides"  

keep it clean boys. lol  
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I didnt bring up MR2's, he did. I am sorry, but its impossible not to bash on someone when they call your car shitty and all he has is a weak sauce stock civic when compared to an MR2 with an almost stock 3rd gen 3sgte making 300+whp with only 2 bolt ons, that being a turbo and IC.

I guess if there was a worlds slowest/worst performing car competition, than he would be right, my car is shitty in that catagory compared to his civic, because his civic would be unstoppable.

Go dump between 10-15k in aftermarket parts into your motor and then you might begin to talk *** on other cars, but I have yet to run into a civic that has had less money put into there motor and runs a faster time than my car is all Im saying.  

you call everybody elses car shitty, so why cant we call your car shitty, its an opinion anyways.

in oklahoma, trucks out number cars 3-1. ford only has three makes of cars: ford, lincoln, and mercury. they dont need mercury. chevy doesnt need gmc, buick, or saturn. almost all jdm cars have two models. the new car czar should make them reduce their their production and get rid the lowest sold production companies.  
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