Quick question, and you will laugh at my car.

Well actually several questions, first one is, I haven't heard much about it, and even when watching professional drivers I haven't SEEN them do this, do what I do that is. I do what I can only describe as a fast twitch shift, I slap the clutch hard enough to disengage it, but, I usually only get maybe 2" to 3" travel, and about half of that is without my foot in direct contact with the clutch, and I shift the gear (usually up, I can do it down, but usually when down shifting I'm also braking too so not too much use) I haven't gotten, or figure out a way to time this maneuver, but it's fast enough that on full acceleration (pedal down to the floor) I can shift WITHOUT letting off, and only see about 500-1000 rpm jumps, usually I let off slightly to try and not wear my clutch out too fast when I do this. It's also fast enough for me to up shift mid turn (which is helpful for me, considering I drive an unmodified '08 Hyundai Accent) this brings me to my next question.

I've done a little bit of toying around with some of the wanna be import mod drivers around here. Off the line I don't stand a chance, and most of these people either don't have the guts or the know how to take a corner hard. Yes I've got front wheel drive, but in all consideration why is it that a 110hp 106f/p torque car (driver is also considered) out cornering, out handling people in tuned civics/accords/etc. I've come across only ONE person in my area that passed me on a good turn (I'm talking F1 style turns, not these highway curves) Or is it that most people only go for straight line and forget about the cornering aspect when modding their car. Thank you.  

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be careful with you manuver, if you mistime that just a lil bit and your trans is completely f'ed.

as for your ? on whether people cant take a corner, you basically answered your own "tuned civics/accords/etc".  

they probably have nothing more than a fart cannon and intake.  the majority of people dont know how to take a fast corner to save their lives. they just slap on the simple bolt ons and say "my cars "built"".  they should even add the doctor evil quotations to that phrase as well.  

me personally, i try to build everything evenly, unless i have a specific goal the cars going to be used for, drag:all power, track:handling

if you live in the NY,CT, MA area look for a white MR-2... ill blow ya doors off lol  
91 MR-2 Turbo 5-spd
BBS lightweight wheels with Goodyear F1 rubber
Tit-alum A arms with Koni adj. coilovers
Rotura big brake kit in front

Not in that area, I also forgot to mention the car that tooled me was a classic 70's Porche that was tuned beautifully and perfectly restored but with some new tech on the chassis. Beautiful car, I'm still in love with it.

And when I sit on this car past the warranty date I plan on turning it into a hot hatch, maybe a rwd modification if I can afford it, but right now it's my daily driver and my credit builder :-P  

ya its called a half clutch. i use when driftin and draggin. its easier to do on a cable clutch then it is on a hydralic clutch.

on your cornering q. fwds handle better then rwds. i raced a mustang gt on a road that has a lot of corners. when we reached the end he was shocked. i was over three car lengths in head of him.  of course my elcipse is as wide as a mustang.  
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I know I'm not really on th e right site, I'm more of an all american muscle guy, but do like to dabble with the imports a bit. but I found a shirt that was awesome. had a picture of a tricycle and said "we learned from an early age that front wheel drive sucks!"
whether you agree with it or not it's pretty funny!

Car's I've owned
65 Ford f-100
72 Pontiac Firebird
2001 GMC Sonoma  

The mustang, was it new or old? but either way the handling in it is not that good, but as for you trigger, how was teh firebird? I own a 72 LeMans, and i also am a muscle guy, and also enjoy the imports  
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FWD is the worst handling, its prone to understeer.

AWD and RWD are usually better handling. Now thats not to say all FWD cars lose to all RWD cars but generally speaking your RWD cars are going to be better at taking corners than your FWD's. Although the oldskool FWD Minicooper has one of the tightest turning radius's for a streetlegal car and would dominate most cars in a tight autox course.

Here is a video on the matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV18ZBXwwYM

If youd like to race a "good" handling RWD car, find a 93+ MR2 Turbo. From the factory they got the same skidpad as a Ferrari F40, and could 60-0 better than a Ferrari 360 Modena. Its safe to say that Midrearwheel drive cars are some of the best handling cars on the road.  

Aight, to an extent you are correct, however, the understeer on MOST FWD cars is because the front wheels have to put down the power AND keep the car on the road, this usually creates the problem of the power breaking the traction (if you payed attention in physics class you know that breaking traction is harder than keeping it broken.) but this issue, though apparent in my car is fixed by the driver, through throttle feather, and when that fails at returning traction then upshifting and putting a foot to the floor board. What one of the other people said is more or less correct, however to fill it out, the mustang is a classically shitty handler. Ford refuses to upgrade the rear end to something that makes sense, like independent rear suspension with a semi trailing arm axle (Pontiac GTO). FWD and RWD have their own issues, FWD likes to understeer, which is a bit harder to correct than the RWD over steer, and not as flamboyant when corrected with skill.

Eventually (in probably 5-6 years) I hope to own a Nissan GT-R, for the money it is the most amazing car produced today. Or if I EVER finish my damn book and it sells well, I'll buy a car not many of you probably will have heard of, if not look it up the Gumpert Apollo.

And just as a shot at the American Muscle guy, I do love the oldschool american cars, (Like the '67 olds 442 cutlass) but america has lost it's touch, what we had then was the best of the best, now american cars are just more or less trash, save for a FEW good ones out there, the GTO, the Cadillac CTS (but you'd be better off spending the money for a CTS on an BMW M3 or a Nissan GT-R), VERY few good american cars, where there's many many more to be found elsewhere.

(M3, GT-R, Any VW other than the beetle, 911 Turbo-S, Civic Type R, Integra Type R, Anything by Lotus, Oddly the Hyundai Tiburon, Brabus Smart, Merc C-65 AMG, Volvo S40, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO, Subaru Impretza WRX, and many more)  

oh, not to nitpick, but the new version of the GTO isnt an "american" car.  It was originally a holden manaro, from austrailia.  GM bought the design, dropped in an LS6 out of the vette parts bin, and gave it a pontiac grill.

And i have to say, thats the first ive ever heard of gumpert.  i actually looked it up, and theres VERY few occasions where ive never heard of a car maker (aside from one off concepts).  that car looks hella sweet.  
91 MR-2 Turbo 5-spd
BBS lightweight wheels with Goodyear F1 rubber
Tit-alum A arms with Koni adj. coilovers
Rotura big brake kit in front

Wasn't the Gumpert on Top Gear or am I thinking of another car?  
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Yes it was the Gumpert on Top Gear, and gumpert is actually a company started by Audi's chief engineer, and he wanted to design and build a car that HE wanted this is mind you the engineer that brought the audi AWD system into the world, and also the Audi double clutch automatic. Amazing car, and (imho) it would be so much more fun to drive than the Veyron. Simply for the Turbo Lag it has (bi-turbo V8 w/ no variable Valve turbo, fun fun fun) Cruising around at sub 2k rpm, downshift and punch it and suddenly 750hp is bruising your ass, and snorting snarling monster of a beast has been awakened, scaring small children and frightening old men in their midlife crisis Shelby GT500 Mustang...Not to mention it's got a sub 4second 0-60 and its quicker 0-120 than almost any other cars out there...oh, and it's designed to be glued to the road...grip grip grip..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4S6QF0yyaA  

it was a 03 mustang. rwd suffer from understeer just as bad a fwd suffer from oversteer. the only good steering is in awd.  
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Just gonna point out godfather RWD is oversteer, FWD is understeer, and all good AWD systems transfer most of the power to the rear once take off is finished, leaving only a LITTLE power to the front to HELP keep the front inline, but not enough to hurt.  

oops. i was repeating scrotum. but id rather have the weight on my turn wheels then on my drive wheels like the mr2. for drag maybe rr is better, but in cornering aspects, ill keep my ff. i would rather have awd.  
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