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Posted: 05/06/08 03:19 PM
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I'm building a 1995 Mazda 626 w/ a 2.5 liter v6 an i have no idea what i could do to it...any help would rock..Thanx everyone
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Posted: 05/07/08 12:31 PM
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Well are you looking to boost it? How much power do you want to make and most importantly, how much money are you willing to spend?
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Posted: 05/08/08 12:12 AM
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i want at least 350-400 horses and i wouldn't mind spending bout 3000 bucks if not more on motor alone. im on the verge of orfering a jdm KLZE for it an im ju lookin towards what i can do to milk all the power possible out of it.
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Posted: 05/08/08 06:54 AM
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Look man, unless your wanting to race other FWD family sedans your not gonna go anywhere fast without dumping in a ridiculous amount of money into your car. Your Mazda 626 was not built for racing, it was built for fuel economy and getting you from point a to point b as well as lugging 4+ people around.
I would recommend keeping your 626 as a daily driver and picking an entirely different platform as a race platform.
For one thing your car is FWD, this is frowned upon in the world of racing. Unless you plan on only doing highway roll racing, or spending big bucks for a transmission rebuild with LSD and slicks, your car will sit at the line and spin tires with your 350-400hp.
Your car is going to require an entirely different motor just to pull what you hope to acheive. My question for you is why would you want to buy a whole new motor for your family sedan, when there are lots of cars out there that can make 350-400hp on a stock long block without any costly swaps necesary?
My car makes about 400hp at the crank and is MRWD. If you and me raced, I would blow your doors off by probably 20 car lengths since I get all my power to the ground and you sit at the line spinning tires in your FWD family sedan.
If I were you, I would scrap the idea of a racer Mazda 626, keep the 626 stock as a daily driver and then go out and buy a car that was specifically built for racing from the factory, not try to convert your family sedan into a race car.
We really try to get new people to avoid making FWD platforms into race cars on here.
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Posted: 05/08/08 03:02 PM
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ya know it's funny. i asked that looking for a lil bit of advice or help and i get shot outta the water by dick that doesn't know me or what im willing to spend. just cause its a front wheel drive sedan doesn't mean anything to me. a car is a car and not everyone has the same tastes as u. u might blow my doors off an beat me by 20 cars but ya know what, i would still have the satisfaction of knowing that i tried. not everyone cares to have a car that everyone else has and has already built 100s of times. i used to think everyone one on here was helpful and cool to talk to but people like u make me not even wanna get on here or let my frinds know theres help on here cause there is none. now im not dogging everyone, just cocky people like u who only care about their selves and no one else. man u need to rethink ur life cause u suck at it. find a hole and climb in cause ur kind is whats wrong with the world.
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K20Z3
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Posted: 05/08/08 03:53 PM
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disregard sirscrotum's remarks. he's extremely opinionated when it comes to the automotive world, and has some sort of hatred for FWD platforms. shoot me a private message with any questions you have about your mazda, and i'll be more than happy to help you out.
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Posted: 05/08/08 06:09 PM
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You avoid tlling new people to go FWD? Maybe half the time.
The other half the time you say FWD makes the best starter car.
Anyway on to the mazda. Being FWD I'd plan on ignoring the drag strip (corners'll be more fun anyway) Simply because the big weakness of a front wheel drive vehicle is it's launch, which is an integral part of drag racing. You can still be quite competitive in other forms of motor sport.
I'd look into suspension before power, and believe this to be true with any car because all 400hp that is your end result has to travel through a very small patch of rubber. All the power in the world is no good if you can't keep your tires on the ground, this is doubly true for a FWD vehicle.
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Posted: 05/08/08 07:51 PM
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I tell youngsters that something slow and fwd is easy to drive and therefore good for someone who is new but for any kind of racing, it is generally frowned upon since having all your weight in the front diminishes the cars ability to stop/handle/accelerate from a stop.
What is the fastest stock FWD car run? an SRT4 neon that runs 14.2?
Now the fastest MRWD car from the factory, the Saleen S7 runs 10.7. Its clear that if the man wants a racing platform that is easy to make fast he should avoid the 626.
Ill just put it this way, if you continue to tune the 626, you will not be fast.
ANother reason I dont like it is hes gotta drop thousands on a motor just so he can say hes different. I got more respect for the guy putting bolt ons to his 2.5L turbo Dodge caravan than someone who swapped in a klze motor and did this or that to his 626.
The caravan guy atleast had the right idea from the start and use a motor that was built to make lots of power with minimal mods, no swapsor adding a turbokit and new injectors required.
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K20Z3
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Posted: 05/08/08 10:41 PM
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^ as i've said before, look up the results of 07 25 Hours at Thunderhill. 2 different FWD civic si's placed 4th & 6th overall. This was against race prepped RWD cars, and no the Si's weren't completely rebuilt replacing every factory part converting it from an economy car to a race car. Upgraded struts and springs, AEM cold air intake, custom mid pipe, ECU reflash, and basic weight reduction rolling on 17x8 wheels wrapped in Michelin Sports.
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Posted: 05/09/08 02:42 AM
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The s7 goes 200mph and goes zero to 60 in less than 3 seconds, but if you can find one in the same price range as an SRT-4 let me know.
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K20Z3
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Posted: 05/09/08 07:55 AM
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^ exactly
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Posted: 05/10/08 11:07 AM
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Hey man just listen to K20Z3. He seems to know what he is talking about. Just know that if you want to squeeze every bit of power out of your motor and you want to do it right then you are going to have to learn to get real technical. It isnt going to just be your every day jo bolt on parts that are going to do the trick. Your going to have to figure out where you want the power at in your RPM band and then purchase the parts that apply. Then you may want to purchase adjustable cam gears and play with the cam timing and also look into getting a stand alone engine management system so that you can adjust your fuel map and optimize your a/f ratios at the different rpms.
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K20Z3
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Posted: 05/10/08 03:16 PM
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^ Thanks Tech. He can make a good track car with bolt ons, but not one that can compete in most classes. I looked up some parts for him, and you'd be surprised how many quality parts they make for the 95' 626.
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Posted: 05/10/08 06:24 PM
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Really? *** Im not to knowledgeable when it comes to Mazdas. But hell enlighten me on what you found so that way if I ever come across a Mazda Ill have an idea of what I can get.
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Posted: 05/13/08 02:16 PM
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what sites do i need to check out and what motor parts do i need to look into getting.
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