Hey guys, just wondering and offering my general thoughts about this topic. First off, can someone tell me the stereotype or the politically correct term for a ricer? Just wondering, I've been seeing some posts where someone might come up with a decent idea, and it might fit their own personal tastes, but they get called a "ricer" or thats a "ricer idea." Just wondering how everyone else percieves it. I'm guessing anyone who pretty much allows mainstream media and influences manipulate and control their thought process may be a ricer, you know, in the sense that after seeing f and f that some newbie might come along and want a civic with nitrous and dope rims, weighted and dropped low, neons, custom paint, etc. Is it because we might feel threatened that they may misrepresent us? If so, I feel that it is our responsibilty to educate these people. And maybe all that isn't so bad, you know, the civic with all that stuff, or conversion kits, etc. But as long as they are faithful to the sport and the culture, I see nothing wrong with it, honestly. Those are just my thoughts, feel free to share yours.  

Put it this way, man, what is the point of what we do? Is the "import scene" that much different to the "domestic scene"? Well, it shouldn't be, IMO. All we are doing is hot rodding out four cylinders for the most part.

So what is this "sport or scene" you speak of? All I do is hop up cars. I don't need cosmetic *** to make my car better. Nor do I care if my car is pleasing to the eye, or what some broad thinks of it. If that was the case, I would save up and get a BMW M3 or somthing.  

[quote All I do is hop up cars. I don't need cosmetic *** to make my car better. Nor do I care if my car is pleasing to the eye, or what some broad thinks of it. If that was the case, I would save up and get a BMW M3 or somthing.

Right with you, brother.    

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Of course, I agree with you. I'm right on the same page with you. Maybe my point just didn't come across right. I was trying to say that maybe we should be more open to those that choose to go in that route. I'm all about what's inside the car, what makes it run. It's not always about how nice it may look on the outside, but I will give credit to those that become innovative and stylish. I just think that when we call someone a ricer for that, we aren't really helping him/her out, it's almost like a put down. We want to educate them. That's kind of what I meant to say.  

And when I mean the culture, I mean us as a history of tuners, mechanics, origins, etc. I mean sport and culture also in the sense of how the media portrays us. I'm a tech head, so to me, tuning is where it's at. Everything else doesn't matter as much (when I say that I mean rims, paint job, general cosmetics, etc) as putting in some serious wrench time. So when I say that they may be trying to differentiate us-the "import scene" and the "domestic scene"- I mean that we do sort of get that because of the difference in style and cosmetics. It's not everyday you see a SS Nova tricked out with a spoiler, body kit, nos, etc to as where you might see that on a Civic, you know? So I see it as the same, the real guys behind it all understand that we have the same goals. we just want to gain some nice numbers for on the stretch.  

Well im going to go with eclipse and drsl or however you spell it. Performance first, but still i dont want my car to look like a piece of [censored]. And anyways, most performance mods, coilovers rims for better traction, make your car look good any ways, but i think that putting body kits and [censored] is just stupid, unless you have so much cash that youve run out of things to do to your car.  

Yeah, agree with you on that too. I think that tuning is defintely where its at. But then again, some style is not bad, if you have the cash. But it comes down to the scenario, is the car for events like races or for shows? And body kits tend to creat downforce which results in better traction. I'm just saying that simple and clean looks are good, but if you have a personal taste for going ridiculous, and the cash to spend, who's stopping you?  

guys i really believe that if you can have flount it chics do and i also like that the same if they want it givit sh... like my crx like my women very fast and clean...lol  

This guy is obviously gay.  

All this coming from a buncha white people, have any of you ever been to japan, its not that out of the ordinary to see a prelude Type-s with hot pink neon and 19 inch Rays well still being able to burn anything that comes its way. MY point being is its all about individuality not just being a hard core tech or a trailer queen, its about doing what feels right to you. I think the best solution is a perfect mixture of both!  

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have any of you ever been to japan, its not that out of the ordinary to see a prelude Type-s with hot pink neon and 19 inch Rays well still being able to burn anything that comes its way.

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MY point being is its all about individuality not just being a hard core tech or a trailer queen, its about doing what feels right to you. I think the best solution is a perfect mixture of both!

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AMEN TO THAT, dude!

I soooooo wanted to blast him, but I figured I'd let someone else start. Now that you've said most of what I wanted to say, there's no point.

Nice job. I'm glad to know there are a few of us real tuners around here, not just a bunch of uneducated and downright moronic people.    

What does race have to do with anything? Just wondering. And how do you know for fact that we're all "white people?"
Just wondering that as well. As for your argumnet about individuality, I can buy that, that's understandable. Is it about being a hardcore tech, hell yes it is. We constantly push the envelope looking for ways to make our cars bad ass be it on the street or track. As for it being common to see such and such of a car with such and such mods in Japan, how do you know this? Is this first hand knowledge? And well as for the perfect mixture of both, well you're not that far off. But if you aren't looking at it from the performance perspective and trying to get the best out of your ride, no matter what the look, then you shouldn't be involved in the "scene." I don't really care for posers. I think that should be the new term to use, "ricer" is used and played out. It doesn't even seem to make as much sense to apply it to such people who just want to act cool and think they belong because they have money to buy [censored] and have some real tech head install it for them. That's the problem. I just give respect to those that have knowledge, and also look to make a little bit of a standout with their car's appearance, I'm not advocating ridiculous spoilers, paint jobs, big ass exhaust pipes, neons everywhere, and body kits like the ones shown in NFSU 1 and 2. Those kind of cars are only for show, which is cool and all, to an extent because some still look so damn ridiculous, but they aren't worth the money if you're going to race it and have the potential of [censored] it up. Those are my thoughts, wonder who's somewhat with me.  

If it's the  term "ricer" your speaking against, Tim, idk what would be more appropriate. I don't see the term going away anytime soon. It's now a commonly used word, popular with car enthusiasts and normal people alike.

It's hard to pinpoint exactly where the term comes from, but from my personal experiance, I've heard the word used ALONG time ago. I'm 20 now, and I'm going to say, when I was 11 or 12, I remember an older family member commenting on another's choice in new car. I can't remember exactly what it was, mabey a Toyota. He laughingly referred to it as a "rice burner", and I'll never forget, I thought it was a funny term. I guess old school guys (real old), specificly ones who were around for WWII, referred to Japanese cars as "rice burners", as we all know, Japan, along with most other asian countries, are known for rice. Whether jokingly or not, the name stuck.

It's funny how words in our language can change due to slang, time, ect., as now "ricer" "riceburner" "riceboy" ect. are commonly used terms.

I don't see anything wrong with it, what else is more appropriate? It's even gone far as when we reffer to sombody as having "ricer mentality", which, can also be sombody who, though is part of the "car scene" does not even drive a forighn or Japanese vehicle.

I don't think the term is going anywhere.  

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It's hard to pinpoint exactly where the term comes from, but from my personal experiance, I've heard the word used ALONG time ago. I'm 20 now, and I'm going to say, when I was 11 or 12, I remember an older family member commenting on another's choice in new car. I can't remember exactly what it was, mabey a Toyota. He laughingly referred to it as a "rice burner", and I'll never forget, I thought it was a funny term. I guess old school guys (real old), specificly ones who were around for WWII, referred to Japanese cars as "rice burners", as we all know, Japan, along with most other asian countries, are known for rice. Whether jokingly or not, the name stuck.  

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