hey man i give you props there but i have over 500 hp in my little honda accord,off the line you will get me i know my gears are set really high and im pretty sure you probally have yours set really low but long run i think i could get ya but i give you props on that hemi there nice but i wanted to say i have been around plenty of muscle i was complete chevy boy when i was growing up most around a 1969 camaro ss,but now has a 454 merlin big block bored to a 502 push out idk lol my dad hasnt never told me and wont,he tells me when i build a car that can beat his he will tell me so im trying,but man i understand about the money he has easily put inbetween 50 to 100 grand into that car so aint no car cheap when built rite and with good parts so peace i give props again on the hemi man ive seen one and there bad motors  

When it comes to it I think hotroder or tuner are 2 words that mean the same thing. Different times differnt words. Sorry can't spell
 

man...your broken english hurts...I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but it took way too much effort to make out what you wrote  

Ok. Try this out. The words hotrodder and the word tuner mean the same thing. Even though the words are differnt, they mean the same thing.
Is that better?  

err...I was referring to H22 :/  

Ok. Sorry 66. Been having a bad day. Didn't mean 2 take it out on you.  

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Ok. Try this out. The words hotrodder and the word tuner mean the same thing. Even though the words are differnt, they mean the same thing.
Is that better?

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Actually, they DON'T mean the same thing. Now, if you had simply said "performance enthusiast" or something along those lines, I'd agree with you.

The term "Hot Rodder" actually refers to the pre-1940's period of cars but primarily focusing on the late 1920's-1930's era. A "tuner" is a newer thing and can be somewhat attributed to those who primarily focus on imports; however, this term could be used loosely to define those who modify domestic cars as well.

I'm not trying to be some smarty pants or anything, so don't take it as such. I'm just trying to clarify it for you before someone comes in here and gets stupid about it (like we've seen).    

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No prob. I noticed that their are alot of anal retnive people here. Sorry for the bad spelling.  

I see how it is...    

To get back to the original question..... that's a tough call for me personally. The unfortunate thing is that either is a financial pipe dream, but I think I'd have to go with American muscle. As Eclipse stated in another thread "There's no replacement for displacement" and you just can't fit a 400 ci (or larger) engine into the enigine bay of most imports. Besides, I was looking at old pontiac Tempests (the goat's predecessor) on ebay. The price isn't bad, and from there I could clone a goat pretty cheap. Let's face it, there's a proliferation of old GM small block V8s sitting in salvage yards across the nation for a few hundred dollars. In the case of the generation I'm talking about I could get a new Edelbrock carb and manifolf from autozone relatively cheap, and I've got some serious tire smokin power. However, I joined this forum, and haven't been doin the trash talk of some (i.e. bigblockboyz and others), so imports have a special place in my heart. Could have somethin to do w/ the fact that I've never seen 35 mpg out of any american engine (the american rides that make that kinda mileage tend to have foreign engines in them anyway )

P.S. I do hate this forum though cause it ends up consuming so much of my time... I should have given up and gone to bed hours ago. Guess I can't blame you guys for my lack of discipline LOL  

Am I like the thread killer or something?  

it's been dead for some time...there's really nothing more to add...  

hey i would have to go with a tuner
and first off u u dissagre send me a message cause o probly wont be able to check these as much as messages
but i have a eclipsegtv6 with 450 hp and 400 lbft of torque
and it is all trick out
i will try to get in in the pic s so everyone can look at it  

Bah, the 3g Eclipse is trash. They should have skipped the 3g and went right to the 4g. Especialy with it's horrible performance, non existant aftermarket, and wannabe testarossa door flares. Ug.  

it depends on the car. i would rather have a new gt-r than a  new Z0-6.  but i would rather a GTO than eclipse.  Personally i kinda like the german cars, benz and audi can make really nice and fast cars, however its useually more expensive.