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Posted: 09/27/06 11:42 PM
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You know what they say... Opinions are like butt cracks, everyone's got one. Just seems like you've got a lot of them.
Too bad we don't know where you guys live. It like to see you two guys on an episode of pinks. My guess is that after being spanked for the third time, you'd jump into your Fiero and run off.
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Posted: 09/27/06 11:47 PM
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I'm not sure you understand. I plan to run a turbo and that will double my power. I also have plans to add a tornado for a 25% increase. That's just two power adders. My uncle said that we can also add a K&N charger for more power too. I don't understand what you have against Suzuki's. Have you been beaten by many of them or something? I don't bash your car. I'm looking for ideas, not put downs. I think the all wheel drive gives me a huge advantage off the line too (unless I smoke all 4 tires). Last night, I changed my oil to Royal Purple and I can already feel more power with just that. The guy at Autozone said that if I get those split-fire spark plugs, I'll get a lot more power too. I'm definatley becoming a pretty good tuner.
Oh and here's a link to my ride. It's under PhatGeo42. That way, you can find me on the street in you are looking for a spanking.
http://users.adelphia.net/~tprints/tracker/pics.html
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joker89
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Posted: 09/28/06 12:40 AM
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Ok first i have never owned a geo but I agree with everyone else, YOU JUST CANT DO IT!! And if you actually are able to pull this off, I would need some hard proof. Now with that said I have seen a Ducati motorcycle beat ferraris off in the 1/4. But i can probally beat you in a drag with my stock Dodge 1500, with the small 4.7l v8 in it.
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joker89
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Posted: 09/28/06 12:54 AM
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Well if he is looking to drag, He could get a 240 for the same price and money into the motor and be runnig around the same time, if not faster.
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Posted: 09/28/06 01:33 AM
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I do not care for eclipse or the 240. They seem kind of blah to me. If I wasn't building my Tracker, I think I would be better off with an old Nova or Chevy II for drag racing. They are lightweight and would blow the freak'n doors off of 'most' imports on the street. No turbo, no computer, just motor.
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Posted: 09/28/06 02:43 AM
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Brilliant deduction Sherlock! You must be a detective on the local police force. That would explain all your free time to post on this forum.
I've seen a lot of strange things on different forums, but your persuasiveness to get this guy to buy another car to drag race is amazing.
Although his platform may be questionable. It doesn't seem to me that he is trying to build a record setter. Again, he is looking for help in trying to make his CURRENT ride faster, not another.
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BlueLEDs
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Posted: 09/28/06 05:12 AM
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As much fun as it is to read about people arguing about how they built there car ther is a section for that on this forum and its not here.
Back to the question, the first one, to make you tracker faster you should do the basics first, intake, header, exhaust. (If your going to put a turbo on any time soon then the header is not needed) Another point, making your own cold air intake is not the best idea, a leaf blower tubing is not insulated to keep the air inside cooler then outside the tube so the heat of the engine will come into the tubing and make the air hotter then you'll like.
As for the turbo, do your homework be for you get one, find the Compression of your engine if it is above 10 then your engine is not for F/I. You'll have to then work to get the Compression numbers lower. And your engine will only be able to take about 5psi of boost before needing to be built up. If I remeber right 1psi is about 15hp so 5 would be about 75hp, but that depends on the turbo and parts and everything else. Also make sure you have room in your tracker's engine compartment for a turbo, intercooler and tubing of the turbo or you might be wasting your money on a turbo that will not fit.
I don't think you can make a 11 second car with a turbo and some other bolt-ons but if you build it right you'll have a very fast tracker.
good luck
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HairySheep
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Posted: 09/28/06 06:36 AM
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actualy they get you a percentage, not a hp number, youll have to atleast run 8-9psi to get a 70% increase in power
do you know any good welder/metal fabricators? you should look at engine swaps, what motor do you have, the 1.6 or 2.0?
that might a be very difficult swap though because of the 4WD and that it does not share a frame with any other cars
however unless youve got limitless amount of money tucked away, without an engine swap it wont be a streetable 11sec car
youll have to search other Tracker forums and see what the average engine rebuild point is, for my Legacy with an EJ22 its at 300hp and its proven to handle 10psi, the old EJ22T and N/A blocks are actualy stronger than todays N/A EJ25 and the STI EJ25
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BoiseBob
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Posted: 10/08/06 07:52 PM
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Come on folks. I was shotgun in a landcruiser with a 400+ hp chev 350. Watched the Speedometer shoot straight to 25mph and my buddy held it there until the car almost caught up with the drivetrain. He went to second and held the speedo at 40 until the car almost caught up again. We left about 6 feet of rubber in third and were in 4th so fast I didn't have time to catch my breath.
Devon is talking about that kind of burnout, not spinning tires in a puddle while the car stands still- Devon's version of burnout is what the definition of "burnout" was when I was his age.
I bought my 96 4-door in March and have my eye on a 93 ragtop I will buy within the next week if I can get the price where I want it. I started looking for forums because I have spent the last month on a futile quest for an extra 10-15 ponies bolt-on. Why? Because there are a couple hills here in Idaho I am tired of taking in third gear.
No one is out there making mods for the tracker/cr-v/sportage/rodeo bunch. It's impossible to even find a decent set of sidebars or a brushbar built specifically for the car.
Ad the tracker's not too topheavy for performace, though maybe a bit narrow. I do feel the lean when I am drifting around a dirt-road curve, which is shy I never get more than about 15º out of alignment. Inverted rims should add enough to the wheelbase along with some stiffening to get as jiggy as I want to at 50-plus years of age, but I will need to push closer to 120 hp to really enjoy it.
And if Devon is taling about straightline dragging, it's not going to tip anyway. You have to be going around a bend to push the inertial center-of-gravity far enough to one side to put the dusty side up and the shiny side down.
If Devon is starting with a convertible, even better. Lighter and a lower center of gravity. Built-in roll bar behind the front seat
While I am here, does anyone know whether the 1.6litre 16 valve is the same block as the 1.8 sidekick or the Geo Prizm 1.8? If it is, that in itself may be the right starting point for Devon's project. He can probably get a solid used engine from one of those Japanese engine importers. Actually, it might be the right move for my aspirations as well.
And what about the car shows? We all love our little toy cars. Who's fixing theirs up with graphics, chome valve covers, and custom interiors? Come on guys, let's start showing them off a little.
Bob
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Axelz
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Posted: 10/09/06 01:28 PM
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Geotrackerboy, your friend with the pontiac is lying to you...did you every think of that? his car cannot run those kinds of numbers. it probably has about 300WHP or something around there, its got 275 stock the torque is around 260 i think...with 1 or 2 bolt ons like you said, the MOST he will get out of it would be around 25 hp which works out to what i said earlier, a tracker cannot race, you would need to make huge mods to the engine bay just to fit the parts needed plus for an engine swap, which you would NEED to get, considering its such a small car, nothing would fit in the engine bay, unless you car find an s2000 motor(i cant remember the real name for it) then your SOL, plus those arent cheap, thats probably 5gs for just the swap, or more, and including bolt-ons nitrous and new fuel injectors, pistons and everything else itll be another 10g++ your looking at probably close to 20 g's to put into the car.....and as for buying a c6, im sure if people had more than 60,000 just lying around they would, but most people probably dont, and to run anything in the 12's is BIG a c6 corvette has 505hp stock, and 470lb-ft torque stock, those things are beasts,if they weighed as much as some of the smaller cars like a 300zx or a wrx sti, theyd be laughing, you wouldnt have a shot, so basically your gunna need to get a turbo/supercharged v8 engine with $2000 in bolt-ons in your engine bay, which is clearly impossible considering how small those cars are....good luck spending 20grand or more on your geo tracker tho
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HairySheep
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Posted: 10/09/06 05:05 PM
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yeah the average size of a V8 is almost the size of the front of your car
btw, a Z06 IS lighter than a WRX STI AND a 300ZX, by 200lb(STI) and 400lb(300ZX), it also has a near 50/50 wieght ratio, the STI is about 60/40
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Posted: 10/10/06 09:48 AM
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"Geotrackerboy, your friend with the pontiac is lying to you...did you every think of that"
Why would he do that? I don't understand. He said it would be faster if he had wide track but they didn't offer it that year. He showed me the time slip from like 5 years ago. I can scan it in. You guys must just be frustrated because you are not very good tuners.
Thanks, Devon
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