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RNR2187
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Posted: 08/19/06 07:15 AM
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Although this is a much talked about topic, looking for opinions on which one would you take and reasons why
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cj1977
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Posted: 08/19/06 08:41 AM
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Although this is a much talked about topic, looking for opinions on which one would you take and reasons why
Which year car, trim and in what aspects?
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KATwo40sx
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Posted: 08/19/06 12:32 PM
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One is an overpriced "Supercar" that's capable of running 8 second quartermile times.
The other is an overpriced "Supercar" that's capable of lasting for more than 40k miles.
Take your pick.
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BlueLEDs
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Posted: 08/20/06 09:00 PM
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why are these over priced supercars; Is it because they are good cars or is it because people think there good cars.
I think they're both good cars so I think it might be a third reason that they're over priced: people see them in movies and want what they see; I'm thinking of the supra from F&F.
I'm I even close on why they're over priced or is it some thing else.
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KATwo40sx
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Posted: 08/21/06 01:13 AM
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...people see them in movies and want what they see; I'm thinking of the supra from F&F.
There ya' go.
Think about it, man. The RX-7 engine doesn't usually go more than 60k miles before the apex seals go out, requiring a full rebuild. Do you really think a car that sells for 10k should last only 60k miles? (Talking about the FD body)
And the Supra. Sure, it can make 1,000hp and run 8's in the quartermile. Yay. So can MANY other Domestics. Dollar for dollar, it's cheaper to go with a domestic to make these times, because the car itself is cheaper. The Supra is a fine machine, no doubt, but severely overpriced.
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BlueLEDs
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Posted: 08/21/06 07:06 AM
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The RX-7 engine doesn't usually go more than 60k miles before the apex seals go out. . .
Wow only 60k I didn't know that. would the RX-8 have the same problem at 60K; a friend of mine was looking at getting a used one that had about 25K miles on it. She didn't get the car but if it need to be rebuilt after only having it for 35K that would have sucked big time. especially sence the car was for sell for about 25K.
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KATwo40sx
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Posted: 08/21/06 03:12 PM
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A rotary is a rotary. Some have gone over 100k miles, but even at that, would you be satisfied seeing your $25,000 car need a new mill at 100k miles? That would TOTALLY suck.
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Posted: 08/29/06 03:11 AM
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Rotary engines are proved to be less reliable. If your RX7/RX8 lasts more than the others you are just lucky.
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Posted: 08/29/06 04:32 AM
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i'd pick the FD just out of personal preference. yeah you're goin to need to do a lot of maintenance but i just like it more =P
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Posted: 08/30/06 09:24 AM
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supra for sure.
any car can make tons of power. the main issue is how reliable the power is.
sure any big displacement muscle car can be built to pound out tons of power/torque and low quarter mile times. so you end up with a car that is fast in a straight line, but is bound to explode. something WILL break.
FDs can make big power as well, but the shelf life on the stock motor is 40k-70k miles before rebuilding for apex seals. its less for modded motors that are driven hard. if you know someone or have a good relationship with a shop, thats one thing. but its not a good idea for your daily street car. though it is better handling wise.
the Supra's 2jzgte can safely handle up to 1000hp without breaking a sweat. not to mention its better at turning than all big motor domestics. the motor is just bullet proof. and in my opinion, the Supra is one of the best looking cars ever disigned (the FD is a close second)
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Supra716
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Posted: 09/01/06 01:16 AM
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DPImpreza: supra for sure.
any car can make tons of power. the main issue is how reliable the power is.
sure any big displacement muscle car can be built to pound out tons of power/torque and low quarter mile times. so you end up with a car that is fast in a straight line, but is bound to explode. something WILL break.
FDs can make big power as well, but the shelf life on the stock motor is 40k-70k miles before rebuilding for apex seals. its less for modded motors that are driven hard. if you know someone or have a good relationship with a shop, thats one thing. but its not a good idea for your daily street car. though it is better handling wise.
the Supra's 2jzgte can safely handle up to 1000hp without breaking a sweat. not to mention its better at turning than all big motor domestics. the motor is just bullet proof. and in my opinion, the Supra is one of the best looking cars ever disigned (the FD is a close second)
Dam straight.
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KATwo40sx
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Posted: 09/02/06 12:57 PM
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DPImpreza: supra for sure.
any car can make tons of power. the main issue is how reliable the power is.
sure any big displacement muscle car can be built to pound out tons of power/torque and low quarter mile times. so you end up with a car that is fast in a straight line, but is bound to explode. something WILL break.
FDs can make big power as well, but the shelf life on the stock motor is 40k-70k miles before rebuilding for apex seals. its less for modded motors that are driven hard. if you know someone or have a good relationship with a shop, thats one thing. but its not a good idea for your daily street car. though it is better handling wise.
the Supra's 2jzgte can safely handle up to 1000hp without breaking a sweat. not to mention its better at turning than all big motor domestics. the motor is just bullet proof. and in my opinion, the Supra is one of the best looking cars ever disigned (the FD is a close second)
HAHAHAHA you MUST be kidding right? Please, tell me that a 2jz is more reliable than an LS1 or LS2, and also tell me that the Supra handles better than a Z06.
Last time I watched some good ol' GT series races, I distinctly remember seeing Vipers and Corvettes in the front. However, I don't recall ANY Supras in the running, despite the fact that there were MANY other foreign cars on the track.
Additionally, 1,000hp Supras don't turn. They drag race. And you won't find a 2jz in a top fuel dragster, which puts out about 6,000hp. Also, 1,000hp twin turbo Mustangs eat Supras alive AND don't need to wait until around 80mph for the turbos to spool up.
However, I will agree that the Supra would be the more reliable and power-friendly choice over the RX cars.
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Posted: 09/06/06 01:22 AM
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sure those cars can make just as much power, usually more. but your just going to have a time bomb. they will break. in my experience, the supra still handles the power better.
the ls1/ls6 and ls2/ls7 are great motors, dont get me wrong. but the cars they go into arent as impressive. sure they can be made to be incredibly fast; in a straight line. but i dont live my life a quarter mile at a time. im not a fan of drag racing whatsoever. cars with solid rear axles and big v8s that should be making more power than they are just dont impress me.
im not knocking american cars by any means i still respect any fast car, im just stating my opinion.
the C6R is an awesome car, winning as much as it does. but its fully backed by GM, the #1 automaker. stock vs stock the new z06 will just dominate, its lighter and has about 200 more hp. but im not talking about stock. this is a tuner forum ![]()
the reason that the supra never even races anymore has to do with Toyota's empathy in motorsports (*aside from open wheel). the supra is no longer being sold. there is no reason for them to back a supra race car. during the supra's production run it was used heavily in the JGTC series.
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KATwo40sx
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Posted: 09/08/06 12:05 AM
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eh...LS2 engines are found in Corvettes...which are FAR from solid axle, straight-line only cars.
Don't get me wrong, I love my little turbo Nissan, in all it's old and outdated glory. But to say that the 2jz is the best engine in the world because it's so bulletproof is just silly.
You're correct, however, the Supra isn't in production, and therefore not currently raced.
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